My one question is with how it changes faction specific AI. Despite being out for some time now, Fallout 4 modding scene is still in it's child shoes. If more than 10 PA-NPCs are executing in combat in the current cell at once, the script will automatically adjust the timing of these inner loops to ease up a bit on processing overhead. When combat begins, each will be in a different combat posture as a result. It is fully modular, and it's easy to deactivate the less compatible stuff. And you’ll get a nice personalized email response of thanks. But, basically it allows customizable groups of enemies (you can choose their "level" and number of enemies among other things) to spawn near you at customizable intervals (ie. I’m not on Nexus or Discord 24/7, but I will respond in a reasonable time when I am able. Combined together they make a much more hellish, much more deadly, much more difficult commonwealth wasteland. By definition, both PA-NPC types are always basing their calls on highly selective and limited chunks of information, and so are often prone to making bad decisions when they have bad information. Probably. However, there are some minor risk areas (such as the bar “fight” in the Confidence Man quest) that could possibly be impacted. Q: Are the Pack Attack mods compatible with my version of Fallout 4? For this guide I will try to compile a complete list of all the codes for spawning in NPCs. Dead NPCs, such as the dead Raiders in College Square, do not have scripts attached. In general, they will rush you if they either think they can get away with it or if they’re cornered and have no choice. It’s amazing how many have just one or the other. The Development Process If you are having unexplained hostile problems, please PM me, Dropbox me a save file that demonstrates the problem, and send me your load order. All I can guarantee is that any reported/verified bugs are being investigated and fixed as quickly as possible, because I’m quite aware that players are accepting that risk. AP are used three ways in Fallout 4. This tool will be removed in a future version of PA-NPC once I’m satisfied that it is no longer necessary. Versions 1.6+ (main channel) require F4SE. Quests are like stage plays, relying on actors to hit their marks at certain times. The script itself is single-threaded (i.e., it doesn’t use tricky techniques such as CallFunctionNoWait() shenanigans to create multithreaded processing internally), and it only operates on active NPC references that are loaded in the current cell. Some will start with a natural advantage there, more likely to stay true against impossible odds. The tribe is composed overwhelmingly of very light-skinned individuals of Caucasian descent that cover their bodies in a chalk-like white powder as war paint. Lovethepython 3 years ago #5. I’m always happy to hear more. The Sole Survivor must go to the gang leaders' locations and execute them: Nisha will be in Fizztop Mountain, Mags and William Black will be in The Parlor and Mason will be in Bradberton Amphitheater. Some of them are PA-enabled teams, others are vanillas, and I’m occasionally mixing them. Especially latter. For example, if a mod creates a new Brahmin NPC but uses a custom race and/or custom factions, the PA-NPC registrar has no way of accurately identifying it. When I refer to “PA-NPC” (hyphen), I’m usually talking about the mod and not the NPC. I'm still looking for a good combat overhaul though. As of v1.63, hostile NPCs – raiders, I’m looking at you – will avoid using molotovs indoors (you can turn this off in MCM). This isn’t necessarily a bug, but is actually a feature of the game engine. I've looked at them in FO4Edit, and both are perfectly compatible (except with mods such as Pack Attack, obviously). Also, no attacks within settlements from the stalkers, which is nice and convenient. Other AI overhauls all basically do the same things: adjust the global game settings and update the combat style definitions. Fallout 4 NPC Spawn Codes. However, there are plenty of BoS actors which remain on vanilla settings. If they are panicking and in retreat, both factors take deep hits. However, that does absolutely nothing to contribute to group decision making, so it’s out of scope. Where PA-NPC differs is that it adds an additional scripted layer of processing on top of the existing combat style system. Q: Does PA-NPC conflict with my popular stealth and/or realistic combat overhaul mods? You can also help pitch in, if you want to get your hands dirty on this mod. I thrive on community FEEDBACK. As of 1.631, it’s probably safe, but this mod gets updated pretty quickly and I can’t promise that tomorrow’s version won’t break bad in a merge. I never even knew this mod existed. Q: Which NPCs are altered by PA-NPC? The problems are the unsupported NPCs that were enabled by mistake due to (now-fixed) bugs in the registrar, and that otherwise would normally be friendly NPCs. That having been said, not everything is really a bug, and I would very much appreciate if you could do a bit of leg work before reporting it. Fallout 76, the online prequel where every surviving human is a real person. When you load the clean game save, PA-NPC will reinitialize itself to its initial state. PIRAD. No. That's also my problem with mods like BLD. Q: Why are all these raiders rushing at me instead of shooting at me? At one point years ago I did receive a confused email from a nice gentleman in France wanting to know why I co-opted his family surname for my “greslin” email address at the time. Versions prior to 1.422 had a bug that, over a long enough period of game play, could lead to substantial save game bloat and ultimately CTDs. The game takes place in Boston, Massachusetts. Railroad could care less about the raiding and never attack. Work together, or not, to survive. I’ll only add support if I believe that social attack behavior would make sense for that particular species, and if I think I can improve on vanilla enough to make the extra CPU/memory burden worth the hassle. It's either kill or be killed. Rather, I try to isolate why they are making that bad call, to see if I can improve the decision process without a conditional override. I just don't want to stack on BLD and RGBO and something like Create Your Own Difficulty and all of a sudden even Deathclaws are being one shot to the body. One, it makes each NPC act like an individual, making their own decisions based on a unique personality, their recent combat experience, and their relative perspective of the battlefield. Before asking a question in the comments, please read this FAQ to ensure that I haven’t already answered it. The other situation, theoretically, is that a no-Molly NPC could maybe lift one off the newly dead corpse of a comrade. and it turns out it is a standalone version of the AI tweaks available in Immersive Gameplay 4 mod. At this point, your odds of save game corruption/bloat should be very, very small. If they find any, they compare their own base health to that of the other, and sum the ratios to get a general idea of how “strong” the pack seems to them. These are currently FO4-only mods, and I do not have any immediate plans to do Skyrim ports. For now, it’s the price we’re paying for the additional processing logic overhead. Aggressive military types use either the Gunners or Brotherhood templates. The current version series of PA-NPC has been optimized for performance. If they’re suddenly becoming very in-your-face aggressive, it’s because they’ve decided that they’re winning, and they may (but may not) be right. I also code to relieve stress, and I see it as a fun hobby, so I am pretty much tinkering with the stuff off and on all day. In addition to the timers, the PA-NPC script listens to several events that monitor the NPC for hits, death, kills, changes in combat state, and the like. (updated 3/17/18, v1.62). It's called Smart A.I. Does it even need to? Currently they compare base weapon range and base cap cost value. No one can promise that. I like to use it alongside Immersive Fallout, Weapons of Fate, and NPC Level Scaling. If its last act was caused by PA-NPC, I’d like to know that. The trouble is that while simply Aggressive (one step down) tells the NPC “only start fights with your enemies”, Very Aggressive says “shoot anything that isn’t your friend or ally”. I’m often around, and if I can, I’m happy to discuss your idea in a live chat session. – were shooting most anything that moved. I post a changelog with each update, which I encourage you to review. Just pick the NPC types you want to support, and only those NPCs will end up with the script attached. Others will fall like a house of cards. As of v1.63, NPCs suffer temporary damages to their Aim Stability (gun wobble) and Weapon Attack Speed (how often they can shoot) for ranged attacks, depending on combat circumstances. Also thinking of removing Arbitration combat ai and replacing with the one with DA. If you are getting a repeating bug that you can reliably reproduce, try kicking on Debug Mode and see what the messages say. If you are encountering this problem, you have a very outdated version. Fallout 4 throws a number of settlements at you almost immediately, but some are more promising and satisfying than others. You can reduce (or raise) the “volume” of these detection events in MCM, down to zero if desired. Versions since 1.6 have included multiple levels of security to ensure that this combat fire routine is never used unless the target is alive and faction hostile (or is already hostile to the NPC), and is currently in a combat-ready state. Once again, if so, let me know and I can either fix it or code around it. Sometimes that involves a throwdown. Not all of them, however, are PA-enabled: most of the rank and file troops, as well as the Legendaries and the general encounter BoS, should be good to go. If a teammate is near enough to respond and isn’t otherwise focused on what they’re currently doing, that teammate (only one) will respond to the call and move to the comrade in need. A spot for the mods I code for Fallout and other games, last updated 03/31/2018, PANPC v1.66 “I Hear Nebraska’s Nice” update. What should I do? Battle Buddies is my solution to countering a more effective flee/evade system. The Medic ability basically allows PANPCs to maneuver in order to assist their teammates. So if for some reason you prefer the combat style stats implemented in another mod, you’ll have to change the PA-NPC stats manually in FO4Edit to accommodate. The mod does a wide area scan every time you enter a new cell. Q: How exactly do PA-enabled NPCs assess each other and enemy NPCs? we’re winning!”) or to retreat. PA-NPC doesn’t do anything to mess with weapons or ammo. Because in my tests, that’s the only I’ve found to stop raiders from wanting to burn down their own base every time a stranger drops by: just take away their damned flame bombs. Fallout 4: Nuka World Endings Rewards and Options for Completing the DLC. Edit: I'm a big idiot and forgot Immersive Fallout and Immersive Gameplay are two different mods. It’s basically there for the bugged NPCs you can’t/won’t destroy, live with, or that are currently unsupported by PA-NPC. Press J to jump to the feed. All PANPCs have Revenge ability, except (IIRC) Synths and Super Mutants. All said, it took me a long while and a bunch of combinations but i'm finally happy with the combat in my game. Let's go for 10000 likes!Subscribe for more videos!Check out more videos over here! Whatever! As of v1.6, they also assess the combat alert condition of their local teammates. Your companion got caught in crossfire and shot back. As many other mods do the same thing, that meant having to do compatibility patches for anything that had any sort of overlap. You can see some of my work over at Fallout Nexus. The gameplay is largely similar to that of Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas, with the ability to switch But others, such as Molerats and Mirelurks, will need case-by-case consideration and probably custom coding and templates. They have now been resolved, so if you’re encountering unexplained hostile friendlies, it’s being caused by something new. Q: Does Pack Attack interfere at all with NPC level scaling? As of v1.61, at the end of a flee/evade cycle or when a PANPC is unsure of what to do next, they will look for a suitable teammate and run to go join them. It will either not support the NPC (if it remains unidentified), or misidentify it, with unpredictable consequences. How are these mods going to hit my game performance? Power Attacks - This is used with melee weapons. Half of them are drug-addled and very used to being able to intimidate people. This only affects newly spawned NPCs that have spawned into interiors. This shouldn’t happen at all except under fairly high impact circumstances, and as the stack size really is very limited, it’ll always happen at some point. I really do think that Raiders are my favorite PA-NPC group. Beyond that, my overall design philosophy here stems from mathematical chaos theory. Q: Is there a general design philosophy defining PA-NPC’s scope? As of v1.4, the only times I’ve ever seen the stack crash is when I’m intentionally spawning lots of hostile NPCs and trying to crash it. A cleansave update is highly recommended as always, but not required this time around. Q: Are you related to another Greslin I’ve seen elsewhere on the Web? Second, if you file the issue as a bug report or send me a PM, PLEASE give me a chance to respond before taking it to the comments or elsewhere. Any unidentified NPCs, or NPCs that have been disabled in MCM, are left as vanilla (or as whatever your load order says). I would prefer for it to make combat challenging and really make me think about my engagements and what to do, but not fill the world with sponges. animals and such) PANPCs (and Tacticals, if set in MCM) are PA-enabled as soon as they are loaded into the player’s cell. As strange as it might be, I don’t currently regard it as a bug. It’s not my intention to in any way denigrate that work – I’m standing on those author’s shoulders here. 0.4.3. If you have just upgraded to v1.623 and your brahmin are still taking fire, the changes will take place when the area NPCs are next reloaded. Hey everyone. Forged and Rust Devils, for instance, use the Raiders template. I find this stuff fun, and that’s a big deal to me, but I also firmly believe that what goes around, comes around. Most likely, as I’m not the only one. Very occasionally the NPC in question will go catatonic and just wander off somewhere for a nice lie down. Old Faithful offers the Instigator perk which causes double damage vs enemies at full HP. It is fully modular, and it's easy to deactivate the less compatible stuff. Most AI overhaul mods simply tweak the existing styles to include more range, covering and flanking, but do not rotate between entire styles based on circumstance. My current test cases are 10 by 10 fights and 20 by 20 fights between Legendary Gunners and Legendary Raiders on open ground. Feb 15, 2017 @ 10:14pm Originally posted by =EGC= _Nite_: Because nexus texture packs don't cover all areas, I use the bethesda pack together with Vivid Fallout … Relevant excerpts of your Papyrus debug log would be enormously helpful. When I’m reasonably confident in the main release, I’ll ship a non-F4SE version at the same time. A 50HP NPC will see a 150HP friend as a major boost to the team, while the stronger one will regard the weaker one as a liability. As a result, normally Aggressive NPCs – Settlers, DCS, BoS, Minutemen, etc. Sep 19, 2016 @ 4:58am Immersive gameplay, because that means I don't have to choose if I don't want to. This can happen when you use the “Extra Spawn” MCM feature. Is that something to worry about? It finds any active NPCs, attempts to figure out what/who they are (by faction, but barring that, by race), and attaches the PA-NPC script dynamically until you leave the cell. Especially to me. 'Pack Attack: NPC Edition' applies social combat AI to NPC gangs. A CTD is theoretically possible on a stack dump, but is unlikely. Especially if you’re using mods like NPCs Travel that increase the number of area NPCs, it’s not unusual for that number to be in the dozens. 0:00 Arbitration without I.F. Pickman is a serial killer and self-described artist living in Pickman Gallery in the Commonwealth. Additional information from the Fallout wiki: It is possible for some settlers to be a Synth which may cause an attack on the settlement from The Institute. In VATS - to fire weapons, each of which has a cost based upon the type of weapon and its modifications. This means that the weaker NPC may become hyper aggressive when surrounded with tough guys, while a tough guy will make very conservative moves when surrounded by weak knuckleheads. Ranged fighters in a defensive posture get the opposite: better accuracy with slower speed. Q: If I am using PA-NPC, can I uninstall the original Pack Attack mod? Source code is included in both download packages. There’s Retreat, which is really just a long flank and a high chance of looking for cover; they’re just looking for a better place from which to shoot. Q: How does PA-NPC differ from other AI overhaul mods? You don't need Arbitration. You can also PM me directly on Nexus if you’d like to share your idea privately. It sure is a good find. Another mod that goes extremely well with these two is SKK's Combat Stalkers. Like all other PA-NPCs, Synths now are also liable to run away when seriously damaged, to find other Synths to back them up, or barring that, to hide. Unfortunately, Creation Kit has a habit of making these cute little unnecessary edits without consulting the author, which then get saved and shipped without being noticed. Smarter AI and such. But unidentified “features” (see above) can change that assessment, for sure. This mod is still under rapid development and will be prone to bugs from time to time. 28 of the Best Minuteman Mods for the Xbox One & PC - Fallout 4 Mods for The Minutemen - Duration: 37:43. IMPORTANT! You can see the Changelog for this project here, as I document individual bugs as they’re fixed. In theory, this could have potentially led to DCS firing on the player in some rare instances where the player had been tagged as a command target in a prior fight against Gunners. At any rate, don’t use both mods together. Since other mod called loot overhaul 2016 had frame drops as I progressed the game. Note: PA-NPC does absolutely nothing to alter faction relationships. PA-NPC is far and above the next evolution of FO4 NPC AI. A near-future version of PA-NPC will include limited support for turrets and brahmin, specifically to reset them to normal aggression. Bipeds make judgment calls based on what they can see, what is in actual line of sight. As of v1.432 and in all current versions, PA-NPC does not touch any base records. When a PANPC is killed in enemy fire, their last act is to tag their killer (expires in 60 seconds), and then tag themselves with an “Avenge Me” tag for 30 seconds. Almost all of them, with the following exceptions: Any character flagged as unique lockwoodx. I only care about the mod. I’d rather save those rabbit holes for other projects. - Thanks to Caliente for … 7,530. NPC Level Scaling sounds nice and I know BLD and other overhauls do this. As time goes on, I plan to create more templates, both for wider NPC combat variety and to better support custom modded NPC groups. Synths now have the same full complement of combat styles as everyone else, including melee/hand-to-hand at close range and retreat in self-preservation. Probably molerats. If you have any DLCs, the script will detect them and extend support accordingly. So if there’s any sort of conflict there, it’s a runtime issue in which the combined mods throw your balance off. It’s there mainly for my own use, but feel free to play with it. Likewise, v1.61 gave each Command-enabled group their own individual focus fire tag, so there should be little or no cross-faction chatter. Q: So what exactly is the deal with the Brotherhood of Steel? About Pack Attack: NPC Addition (PA-NPC) Which do you like the most? As of v1.63, Feral Ghouls have optional MCM support. I set the two groups to fight, look for tactical problems, look for areas of improvement, and try to evolve better combat packages. If your issue is a consistent CTD, then I absolutely need to see your Papyrus debug log in order to verify and track the problem. Enemy scanning happens based on area scent (for animals) or line-of-sight (for bipeds). The 20×20 can usually be relied on to dump stack at some point, but as of v1.432, the 10×10 rarely dumps stack. User Info: Lovethepython. Right now I don’t see any way to substantially improve them that justifies the processing overhead. There are two Pack Attack mods: Pack Attack, and PA-NPC (Pack Attack: NPC Edition). Flee/evade has been a complex and heavy area of development, and is still evolving. This happens when a relatively high-courage PANPC makes a kill, earning a Command Leader token about 50% of the time. However, there are still two basic ways it can happen. The answer is: depends. The effect dies with them. are bug fix and refinement releases in support of the new features of that version set. And for that matter, Bethesda games, too. 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