Also, probably the best if not a close 2nd best special reconnaissance unit in the entire U.S. military is the little known newest special operations unit to fall under the command ubrella of the U.S . They passed laws about guys like you. You are about the dumbest piece of shit. 4. All these teams have my respect…hell with which one is harder…I saw grown men crying in the basic infantryman school and the basic Jump school… let alone anyone of these other schools! I wonder how low on the list Airborne school is. If you make it through the Selection process where you answer questions about being a pirate, ninja or Viking to duck walking for miles in the forest you get the spend up to 2 years training to earn the feared long tab and a beard (when required). Credit: www.nsonswmentor.com. I went through the PJ training back in the days of 1969… PT requirements were different then.. • Aviation Rescue Swimmer >> • Navy Diver >> • Explosive Ordnance Disposal >> • Navy SEAL >> • Special Warfare Combatant - Craft Crewman >> In an ever changing and complex world, the U.S. Navy deploys men and women in high-risk jobs to achieve a strategic effect and defend our national interests. For you, I’d seriously think about what you want tobdobwhike enlisted, and maybe even what you want tobdo after 4,8 or even 20 years, as these skills translate into a lot of civilian jobs. Didn’t make it very far. But from what I’ve researched, this list is totally wrong. If I would have stayed in Special Forces, I most likely would have been in Delta. Thank you for standing up to evil for all of us. Here is why. And why would Rescue Swimmer be ranked ahead of Pararescue? I plan on enlisting and volunteering for the Navy Diver program. I was a Team Leader for SOG. I can tell you we had 62 start RANGER SCHOOL and graduated 21. 1. The whole pipeline is just under a year and half. Those of you who feel the need to bash Pararescue need to STFU and show some professionalism. MIT suggested a minimum of two and a half years to learn the material. Sappers school needs to be on this list. I’ve been through both SF and PJ school. Basic Navy EOD Dive School - 9 weeks of diving training in Panama City FL where EOD candidates will learn basic diving as well as advanced re-breather diving using the MK16 I respect all on the list, and those mentioned in the comments. PJ school is about a 90% washout rate and that’s after passing a PAST test. Hey academically US Navy Nuclear Field “A” School is tough to get through. Fitness Standards. One of the highest attrition rates in all military schools but that could be because most are from the basic ranks of the Air Force who do not normally experience infantry specific type training. Look it up, or better yet attend the school!!!!! I can’t do what other folks do with ease in the water. Navy EOD School is very academically challenging for most recruits, who tend to be young and immature, and lack attention to details. It’s just what you want out of the service. THE TOP 5 TOUGHEST SCHOOLS IN THE MILITARY All in all, none of them are worth while screwing with… though the seals might like it i kid i kid! Wearing the Tab was important, but not as much as the training that helped push me through some of life’s obstacles. I have already given him the Gruntstyle Air Force shirt. Adversely adjudicated drug abuse offenses will not receive waiver consideration with the potential exception of a single misdemeanor charge involving marijuana (only on a case-by-case basis). Mountain Training School with the Rangers in Georgia was tough. The latest news along with additons to the website are listed below. E3 than for Attrition paygrades rates E4 and were above. Thanks for the humor. My sons sleep safe and free because of you. And then MARSOC. FACE THE CHALLENGE . The men going through this course are already some of the best and usually are ready for it. Many more people are washed out of Pararescue then all the other branches. I myself was just a regular 11B 4 jump chump…did my job the best I could and got out. Pool training at Fort Bragg was tough. After "A" school, USN Information Systems Technicians are assigned to all types of ships and shore stations, and to communication stations in the United States and overseas. For you guys I saw talking about that. Army side Phase 1 has roughly 80% attrition, NAVSCOLEOD has 60-70%. After the initial EOD preparation course in Great Lakes, Illinois that is 3 weeks long, Sailors travel to Panama City, Florida for eight weeks of basic EOD diver training. E3 than for Attrition paygrades rates E4 and were above. Roughly 14 months later I attended the 8 week or 61 day Ranger School earning me my Ranger Tab in serving with 2nd Battalion for 3 1/2 years. Both eyes must correct to 20/25. I just appreciate all of our collective skills that makes what we do appear to be easy. And then you get guys like Mike who skip the part about them asking for comments and spend their time being a keyboard warrior and trying to start a dick measuring contest with anything that breathes. Navy EOD School is very academically challenging for most recruits, who tend to be young and immature, and lack attention to details. I dont care what any of you say, it should be Army Special Forces. SSD, And then there are other MOSES that have other stressors involved in their training and actual practice that go way under the radar, on purpose I might add, similar to some of the training you mentioned, like the 02 field, particularly the 11 part. The grueling seven-week Combat Diver Qualification Course, or CDQC, at the Special Forces Underwater Operations School in Key West, Fla., is neither for the weak of heart, or the idle of mind. But I also will always be a tanker. Effective November 21, 2014, to qualify for the Navy Diver rating, one must pass the Physical Screening Test and C-SORT. training program were the primary sources of Navy attrition, while poor academic performance accounts for most of the attrition of non-Navy personnel. Phase 1: Recruit Training - … The head of the PJ unit was Chief Masterseargent Wofford and I’m curious if he was just an airman at time you got out? I’ve been through both SF and PJ school. Not only the military but other people. CCT’s are trained in advanced combat and special tactics but are also FAA certified air traffic controllers and most become qualified TAPC JTAC as well, PJ’s receive special tactics and advanced combat and are also certified EMT’s, Paramedics and in advaned emergency combat life saving and combat trauma training as well. So for all that…..thank you for your service! But remember, if you go through Marine Corps boot camp, you typically don’t have to go through another branches Basic Training. Over the years, it has evolved into more of a pre-selection course prior to actually attending Navy Dive School in Panama City. Theres difference between assessment and selection for example whn I enlisted I was fortunate enough to secure an 11X option 40 contract that guaranteed me a slot to Airborne School then RASP as long as I graduated 18 weeks of OSUT (MOS changed to 11B) and at least met the minimal qualifications in rifle marksmanship and PT score in the Option 40 contract which are a lot higher than the minimum required to earn blue infantry cord, cross rifles w/blue discs. Now I’ve attended Airborne, Air Assault, Pathfinder, Ranger, Army Basic Sniper, Marine Scout Sniper, SF SOTIC level 1-2 (Special Forces Special Operations Target Interdiction)[Now called SF Sniper Course], Jungle Operations, SERE level C, Military Free Fall, Army Reconnaissance & Surveillance Leaders Course, Air Force Wilderness Survival, etc… the goes on and none were easy however, in my opinion which probably doesn’t have much value since there are so many top notch been to every spec ops type training in the military who seem to know everything yet seriously know far too little based on the majority of posts Ive had the pleasure to read and laugh at the most physically, mentally, emotionally, stressful, stamina & endurance testing, unnatural, overall most difficult, technical (other than the sniper schools/courses & SF Group/ ODA level sniper/marksmanship training as far as technical) and intellectually demanding schools I attended in the 15 years experience as an army special operations and U.S. SOCOM 75th Ranger Regiment Ranger, 7th SF Group, 10th SF Group green beret & Special Operations Sniper is hands down the Special Forces Combat Diver School & Combat Diver Qualifications Course. This list is way too broad to even say which is harder. I have no experience with NSW. Now Delta, different story. As for attrition rates. But that doesn’t mean any of the schools are easy. Training includes terrain in places that you’re happy to be from but never at. Para-rescue and, Combat Controllers train the same way.. PJs and CCT are not exactly the same. Aviation Rescue Swimmer (ARS) Training Overview . There had to be over 50 PJ’s there for his send off. The first SF group I was assigned to specializes in advanced Airborne operations and Military Freefall HALO- High Altitude Low Opening & HAHO-High Altitude High Opening so I went through the U.S. Army JFK Special Warfare Center& Schools Military Freefall School and later down the road Advanced Military Freefall Operations course (Jumpmaster). It is a tough school, they tell us the attrition rate is anywhere from 70%-85% which I don't necessarily believe even though there are quite a few people that fail out. Which makes sense, when you think about it, though we all posses abilities that can overlap, each has a specific mission to accomplish. 1) Seals The attrition rate is … Not only Recruiters but also those that are in ir have been. This may have changed since I had any dealings with the seals or salvage divers of the navy back in the 1980 but here is what I understood back then. The highest attrition rate in the military. US Army (Special Forces A-502, B-53 MACV-SOG, CCC MACV-SOG Back in the early 80’s I was a Open Water Rescue Swimmer in Hawaii as a RANGER. Your email address will not be published. Seals are mainly taught combat/UDT diving while navy divers do mainly salvage work. No color deficiency waivers are authorized. The latest news along with additons to the website are listed below. 2. I was SF (10 years) and a PJ for 7 years before retiring. I worked with the SeaBee’s but was an SN. But not so much the hardware aspects of it, just the theoretical parts, OSI model, protocols, command line tools, get familiar with Wireshark. Seal training should be ahead of Army special forces training. Just different. Looks good and is still doing well…. EODS requires intelligence, strength, endurance and mental toughness to survive the 13-month course. The ability to perform detailed mechanical tasks under stress and/or adverse conditions is important. Must be on active duty (ACDU). Served in the Navy for 3 years 7 months, kitty cruiser, got out when I turned 21. before the Army. No way its harder than number 2. I was selected went through the SF training pipeline eventually graduating the SF “Q” Course where I was officially awarded the Special Forces “long tab” as well as my green beret. 4. 2444 Dole Street … Training for Pararescue School is known as Superman School. After training the canidates must attend and qualify a 6 month operators “Q” course similar to ACE’s CAG 1st SFOD-D “Delta Force” and its 6 month operator “Q” course. Required fields are marked *. Get the over yourself, bitch. 4) Air Force PJ That attrition rate was about 33 percent when he was a midshipman 37 years ago. Navy dive school attrition rate. Marine Corps Boot Camp is about the equivalent of army ranger basic course. Because I was under the impression they did none of that. For a couple plus decades all USAF PJs had to complete Special Forces Dive School as part of their many required pipeline schools, untill that training was picked by the US Navy. Special Forces is endurance and courage. This school trains individuals to become one of the most elite light infantryman (and now women) on Earth. significantly Diving instruction higher for paygrades El, E2, and and the physical . Because their Mountain Rescue training is tougher? I then began foreign language training, and advanced Special Forces Individual MOS 18B Special Forces weapons sgt. And whoever it was that called the these guts pussies because their airmen you wouldn’t make it past the CCT/PJ indotrination program much less make it all the way. The only reason Para Rescue made highest attrition rate is because the Air Force are Pussys. It seems to have no end. The five that should be on that list, in no particular order, are BUDs, PJ school, Army special forces, Marine Corps raider recon and then EOD. US Army Special Forces Scuba School in Key West. Although the school no longer exists, MACV Redondo School should be on the list. The AF tried to merge the two Indoc programs in the mid 90s and there was an unsustainable reduction in CCT candidates passing so the programs had to be decoupled – not to cast shade but that is the fact and people in both career fields know it. US Army Ranger / US Marine Force Recon There is a dive supervisor course, which focuses on running a dive and making sure the divers stay safe. Props to anyone badass enough to make it through any on the list. With DORs running around 8% Jim Jones-Shorten (you can check me out on FaceBook), If your S.O.G why are you telling for the world to see, At the end of the day, all these guys are awesome at what they do and no one is really “better” than another. We love Grunt Style!! Some PJ Indoc candidates who are good but can’t quite get through have been offered combat WX AFSCs if they wan’t to try but not the other way around – do your research bro. never got past E-3 LOL, went up to E-8 in the Army SF then dropped down to E-6 in the Air Force (PJ). They are all hard, by design it isn’t easy and it shouldn’t be. Wow………SFC Tucker. SFC Tucker… Yall are Coast Guardsmen. 10. UTD school in Key West was tough. Yes, I served. You essentially go through the code of conduct and discover your limits. And I highly respect them all. Way to go Quiet Professional. Nothing like seeing a prior ranger crying in the pool because he couldn’t hack it for the number one school on the list. But this is how I would rate it: It’s no joke. And why hasnt anybody mentioned the Airforce’s other two Air Commado Special Operations unit types the 2 year Combat Cotroller School and training pipeline and the nearly 3 years plus Air Force Special Operations Combat Weather Technicians School and Training Pipeline. When I was in the Navy. If you’re lucky to make it through and earn your tab you can join a proud heritage that date… Not really a endurance test like other training. Not to mention pre-dive is built into pararescue indoctrination whereas in bud/s you don’t hit pre dive till phase II which at that point the attrition rate has weeded out the majority. An AW3 gets more responsibility and respect than the average "Shoe" 0-3. Pararescue This was interesting, the comments as well as the article. But we are also individual Multi Tools, like a Swiss Army knife and able to do many things at any given time. One out of every three will never finish. DOG or current DSF units’ missions include high-risk, high-profile tasks such as counter-terrorism, diving operations, intelligence-cued boarding operations, Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure and threat assessments involving nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons. And I flew on weekends with MAG-16, out of DaNang, back in 1966 and 67. On land, I’m good to go. He is also checking out seals and swcc, but the failure rates for those schools seem so high (80% and 50% respectively) that I would hate for him to enlist for 6 years and not make it through. They are a Special Breed of men. Languages like Russian, Chinese, Korean, and Arabic had 75% + attrition rates. TACPs assigned to STSs (Special Tactics Squadrons) typically provide CAS to SOF units. 5) Ranger. They search for and recover downed aircraft, conduct harbor clearance operations, and provide assistance to military, federal, state, and local civilian law enforcement agencies in diving operations and procedures. And no… It’s a tough school, but it’s only part of the PJ course. Also, instructors tend to be very strict as well (there are not a whole lot of second chances when dealing with explosives). It also explains why this Air Force career training path has one of the highest attrition rates in the entire U.S. special operations community at better than 80%. The attrition rate isn’t as high as the other Military schools on this list but that doesn’t make it one of the toughest. Does anyone know what the pass rate is for this schooling? I did not graduate because again, for the record, solid kick in the nut sack. Best advice I can give is be flexible like a rubber dick and cut your expectations out in training… expectations will set you up for failure. You guys that are the real deal, I feel ya, Im shaking my head too. Approximately 1,225 Sailors currently work in the Navy Diver rating. Rescue Swimmer was insane but in a completely different way! In the end, who cares which is harder, I just thank God they’re all US. Training programs such as D.O.G. (Hind Sight) As hardened as I once was, I was NOT a strong swimmer….hence, I would likely not have made it through some of the other courses. If your heart is not 110% in it you will never pass any of the training even the most basic of the trainings required let alone other schools which test your mental and physical abilities. To become a Navy Diver or Explosive Ordnance Disposal Specialist, after boot camp you will attend what used to be called "Dive Prep" in Great Lakes. Traditionally only seasoned senior elnlisted Rangers with a good bit of combat experience and a lot of specialized and advanced training were the only ones considered to attend the 34-37 weeks of special and covert training like SF Combat Diver School, Military Freefall School, Reconnaissance & Surveillance Leaders Course, Expert defensive/offensive driving courses, advanced photography, digital editing, advanced signals/communications, Counter Espionage, Special reconnaissance, special surveillance methods, how to bend in with local population, advanced survival, advanced escape techniques, lock picking, intelligence collection/reporting techniques/procedures, battlefield assessment, state of art early warning sensor deploying and techniques, specialized static line parachuting training and other advanced courses which many are taught by the CIA’s SAD’ & SOG as well as the FBI, NSA, DDS-diplomatic security and the U.S. Secret Service. And we are all brothers, US Navy (DaNang Vietnam 22 months) He gets 10 days off then goes to navy combatant diver school. This is a true story bro. I can tell you right now this list is definitely not in the correct order, BUD/S and marsoc selection should be on the very top, then pararescue school right under that, any course that spends as much time in the water as Seal candidates is gonna have the highest dropout rate because water will make cowards of everyone. Not saying which is hardest but they got rid of the stationary bike a long time ago. The Navy offers over 200 different jobs, known as ratings, for enlisted sailors. If you’re lucky you might only have to endure 61 days of training, unless you have to go the pre-ranger school or even worse… get recycled through a phase of training. with that being said, how about a PJ inspired shirt?! It’s easy to sit here at a computer and say “this one’s easy, that one’s hard,” but in reality, most of us wouldn’t make it through even one of these. Even though both times neither could verify or clarify how they determine the disability rating of either totalled or individual ailments. But being a PJ is the most awesome feeling. Candidates may also volunteer for ND during basic training at Recruit Training Center, at A-school, or at any time during their enlistment prior to their 31st birthday. That sounds so much better, and doesn’t remind everyone of the terrible Costner/Kutcher movie. Navy Divers and diver support personnel are encouraged to use this web site which has been designed specifically for your enjoyment and to facilitate communication between all active, inactive, and retired Navy Divers and Diver Support Personnel. 2. My son is an aspiring PJ and it would be great for him to have a cool, inspiring Gruntstyle shirt to wear. Personnel in the Navy Diver rating are paid allowances (BAH, BAS, etc. This is your path to becoming a US Navy SEAL, an elite force that is the world recognized for their covert operations and dominating in small teams. 3.5 /5 on average. After reading all the replies below, all I have to say is SFQC Class 03-88 was the last easy class. They also maintain and repair diving systems. The DOG was the Coast Guard’s element of special forces, but was not a part of United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM) because the Coast Guard does not operate under the Department of Defense. PJ training should NOT be number 5. Comfort in the water beyond good swimming ability and no aversion to confinement in close spaces is a must. Just don't forget how to use common sense when you go through dive school and the conventional ordnance divisions, it is one of your greatest tools later on in training. I did a lot of schools myself, being in the Navy, Army and USAF. Yeah as far as academics go navy nuke school is on its own level. The Air Force are “pussys”? I was expecting recon to be higher based on what ive heard from close sources but i knoe combat controllers and pararescue types are some of the hardest simply because of the variance in types of skills you need to pass them. All 4 branches trained together and there was an extremely high attrition rate (including the late great Robin Williams). watching people go threw rescue swimmer school definitely not as hard as these not saying its easy but its definitely not comparable to these, MCIWS / CWSS (Marine Corps Instructor of Water Survival / Combat Water Safety Swimmer). My swim buddy through EOD pipeline is a Frog and confirmed….Plus, performing RSP’s is much more stressful than a MK1 Mod 0 fire fight. Pararescue School – US Air Force And the reverse is true. There are three enlisted diving badges/qualifications in the ND rating: Hey guys, quick question. I served with the 129th ARRS, Pararescue and the 5th Special Forces, A-502 and MACV-SOG, SOA-CCC 1-0 of Rt, Delaware 1970. I went to BRC…it was a solid kick in the nut sack. As far as I’m concerned all of my SOF brethren belong at #1 on this list. USCG rescue swimmer. I did it because my father was SF for 16 years and my uncle was a seal. This is the best adsense alternative for any type of website (they I went to SCUBA school while in Special Forces. Entry requirements (references (a) through (h)) can be found at www.necc.navy.mil. Enlistees are taught the fundamentals of diving through formal Navy schooling and on the job training. Navy SEALs. I have no idea what these schools are like so im not going to say the army is better than the Marines. My friends and family never had to do any of those things after basic training. The US Navy and Marine Corps Aviation Selection Test Battery (ASTB) historically has been a highly effective means for reducing attrition in flight training. Online Candidates may also volunteer for ND during basic training at Recruit Training Center, at A-school, or at any time during their enlistment prior to their 31st birthday.In-service recruiters (Dive Motivators) at RTC give presentations on the Navy's diver programs, conduct the physical training screening tests, and assist interested people with their applications. historical high attrition training rates, and to prevent undue delay in training, commands and personnel submitting request for conversion shall strictly adhere to the policy and requirements specified in this article. How do you know when you’re talking to someone who went through BUDS? Plus, the paramedics. Is that you Frank? For comparison, the attrition rate for United States Navy SEAL selection and training is about 75%. Does anyone know what the pass rate is for this schooling? Navy Diver candidates must be U.S. citizens eligible for security clearance, and must be 30 years of age or less at time of accession. I had to go through the Army Ranger Mountain School in Delongica, GA.. Jump School at Benning.. pre scuba at Bragg (sharks vs minnows), Scuba at Key West Naval Station, Medical at Shepard and I was blessed to do Winter Survival/POW School up in Spokane, Wa… plus many months at Eglin AFB in Florida…. Basic Navy EOD Dive School - 9 weeks of diving training in Panama City FL where EOD candidates will learn basic diving as well as advanced re-breather diving using the MK16. Rating Description. Former Recon Scout/sniper Marine here, I have had the pleasure to work with a great many “special Op’s” units when was in. being prior army, pjs are no joke. Prior to this, Navy Divers were normally Gunners’ Mates (GM) whose diving duties were considered a collateral duty, although they did have to be qualified. Though, all can patrol efficiently, few will compare with a RANGER. If you have you’re probably low ranking never deployed. Who cares which school is harder. It doesn’t get anymore realistic than that! If you are tough enough to make it through this process you can retire and write a book about it. By the time a fleet marine gets noticed, and has the honor of being invited (cant request it and not part of enlistment contract) to one of our elite schools. Maybe 90% of the people who dream in college about flying Navy never make it. I think it was class of 1970, I did attend the school. Last but not least the Marine MARSOC Raider training isn’t no kind of a joke either. Wow brother… If that is all true, thank you for your service… That is a lot of schooling. Navy Nuke School and prototype. problem with that is, as you go through them you gain knowledge and endurance that will be an asset in going to the next. To make such a vague statement just shows how truly ignorant you are. Thanks. JP School is harder than SF training. But they’re all hard. Looking at our big board of completes, attrites, and DORs. Take a bunch of guys who do their PT test on stationary bikes and put them in a tough school Id say attrition would be high. I saw him a couple years back at the PJ Reunion in Apple-Turkey, New Mexico. It was like a ghost town in my section of the barracks by the time we graduated. Hey bob, you have been through both schools I take it? It’s no joke. Duty Status. The pipeline is incredibly hard, but I think the attrition rate is so high because the sorry excuse for a PT program in basic training sets us up for failure. Nuke Power School (USN) should be on the list it’s the academic version of BUDS where one in three pass. The motto of the Navy Diver community is "We dive the world over". These guys have to be crazy to pick this as a career. Navy jobs and programs are revised at times, the information contained on this page is subject to change. You obviously get your info from playing call of duty in moms basement. Lack of adequate color vision is disqualifying. Best wishes, jim Jones-Shorten. Learn subnetting and study up on Network+ certification. I’m in the SOCM course now with a few fellow CQT grads plus SQTeam guys and the academics can’t rival any physical evolution you can be put through……all the 18D guys nowadays have to go through this school as part as the pipeline so I think they (and the SO’s) by far have the toughest pipeline in the whole armed forces, My two cents: But I had been thinking about moving over to the Navy. United States Navy. You don’t really fail SERE. They do what navy, marine, army and airforce do. Navy Divers perform underwater salvage, recovery, repair, and maintenance on ships and submarines. Alright, give me a good 7-10 years, and i will do all of these, or as many as possible. Due to the cost of permanent change of station (PCS) orders, historical high attrition training rates, and to … All of these schools are incredibly challenging physically, mentally, and emotionally. 1. Didn’t think so. Surprisingly, however, despite their storied history, the Navy did not officially establish the Navy Diver, ND, rate until 2006. It has been estimated that attrition would rise by approximately 50% in its absence (Arnold, 2002), or by approximately 150 attrites (100 SNAs and 50 SNFOs) per year. Except where specified “no waiver,” BUPERS-324F may waive one or more entry requirements if the applicant is considered otherwise qualified. Navy Divers perform underwater salvage, recovery, repair, and maintenance on ships and submarines. I have always told others that U.S. Air Force Special Tactics Squadron was the most difficult to pass. It’s go, go, go When I was a PJ, I was dropped to do 1500 push-ups, it took me two days to do them…. Do some research. Like Air Force Special Operations 2 year plus Pararesue School and training pipeline all 3 have a ridiculously high attrition rate. That being said I had a few cross trainers in my team who failed as well. A few Marine recons, one army ranger and some Air Force TACP and CCTs. I love the tab that I used to wear just a regular guy. Upon completion of sea tours, FTS ITs will be assigned to reserve centers across the country including the heartland. Favorite Answer First, the attrition rate for ND is about 50-60% for the entire pipeline. This training is nearly as brutal as BUDs physically and much harder mentally and academically. PJ in 1969. Don’t believe me???? For ND, the NOS is E100. Any love for the EOD pipeline? Compare Search ( Please select at least 2 keywords ) Most Searched Keywords. And physical training to strengthen legs. Maybe we should update the list, person who wrote that list obviously went awry, as the current staff would tend to agree with you. When’s the last time you looked at Air Force PT? For the layman, that means that for every 100 men (or women) that attempt to become Para Rescue, only 20 of them will successfully complete the training pipeline. 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